January 24th, 2007
|09:49 pm - No Pink Ponies e-mail drama|
So, check it out...
From E-mailer to me:
I just wanted to write and inform you that you've lost a devout reader.I know you're busy, we're all busy, but I cannot rely on you to updateyour comic on time. I haven't been able to for a while. I'm not writingthis to be rude, just to let you know that you risk losing readerssoon. This little comic may not mean much to you, but the whole idea ofwebcomics is to get more and more readers, more followers. It bringsattention to your writing and drawing abilities, so that when you moveonto better things, those fans are eager to followyou. All NPP has brought to my attention is your utter inability tomake an update on time. I've waited longer than I should, andpatiently, but I'm just going to stick to a comic like Wapsi Square,because frankly, it has a better storyline, and Paul Taylor manages tofaithfully update Monday through Friday.
My reply to e-mailer:
Thank you for your e-mail telling me that I suck and I don't have acommittment especially not when I have a job to go to and a family thatI need to take care of and doing free comics for people to read onlinewhere I really get almost nothing back for it is clearly what I shouldbe doing. Forget the fact that I need to eat, pay bills and actuallyLIVE with the money I get from my job, no, I must do the comic that Iget no money back and I was just doing for the love of drawing comicsto please people who's getting it for free.
Oh, I am so dreadful for not appeasing the masses that is mooching offmy comics for free. I mean, clearly, I was doing the comic so that Ican get more fans and attention and not because I love to draw comics.You know me so well despite me never even knowing of your existence. Iam so sorry for not being able to please you and for the fact thatyou're leaving my comic. I am a horrible person and losing you clearlyare a big huge loss for me because I'm getting nothing for the comic inthe first place.
I have learned my lesson and I have been spanked hard by your e-mail...I am now sulking in the corner sitting regretfully for losing a devoutreader who didn't know me BEFORE No Pink Ponies where I have beenonline and drawing comics for the past ten years... I am burned and Ifeel your sting...
E-mailer's awesome rebuttal:
Be as sarcastic, and try to be as witty as you can. Really. But I'msure Paul Taylor has a family to feed, and his little boy has medicalproblems on top of it. If you can't handle the commitment, maybe youshouldn't make one in the first place.
To which I reply:
Why are you comparing me to him? Do you know he has a different lifethan I do? Do you know he gets money from Wapsi Square? He works OFFWapsi Square, he can live off it. I don't. My comic does not get me anymoney. Do you even read his author's page? He's working on Wapsi SquareFULL TIME, I'm not.
There are MANY webcomics out there that misses longer than I do, I'monly missing one week since my last update and you're comparing me to aman who's working full-time on a webcomic. Well, I'm sorry, I can't dothe same thing cos, guess what, I need money. Paul Taylor is getting money from updating Wapsi Square. I have a different life than his, youknow.
I just can't afford to do the same thing he does, there are circumstances that avoids me from doing it.
And she comes back:
Yeah, I guess it just comes down to the fact that he's good at what hedoes, and you aren't. Whatever, I'm not e-mailling you to stir up shit.Just wanted to let you know that you suck at updating your comic, oreven letting people know that you're taking an extra week off. It'sinconsiderate of the people that go to your site every mon, wed, fri,looking for your latest update, only to be met with some half-assed,unfunny comic.
To which I say:
Gee, how long does it take you to go to my website? 10 minutes at most?See if there's anything new? Nothing new? Then what do you do? Oh,usually, if I went to a webcomic I like and it doesn't update, do youknow what I do? I go to another website! Or oh... heaven forbid, livemy life!
I dunno about you, but I find telling people they suck at something,whatever it is, is stirring up shit. I might just be telling someonethat they suck at sitting down and that pretty much will still strip upshit, you know.
I find the fact that you're complaining so much about my not updatingmy comic and then proceed to calling it half-assed and unfunny verycontradicting... hey, you know what people usually do when they thinksomething is half-assed and unfunny? They don't become devout to it.
She doth replieth:
you're the one that keeps writing me back. Did I hit a nerve?
To which I answer:
Nahhh, but it's really more like I'm writing back out of customary... Ilike to reply my fan's e-mails even if it's spouting hate and insults.I admit, my first e-mail to your was sarcasm, but the ones after thatis to explain to you my whole situation but somehow, you seem to thinkthat webcomic artists have to cater to all your needs and wants anywayand that we should drop all our lives to entertain you, so eh, what canI do? I tried explaining, you wouldn't understand, if that's the way itis then that's it then...
This e-mail kinda tells me that you don't seem to want me to e-mailback... I mean, to be fair, you wrote me first, so it's really like,did I hit a nerve on you... what? cos of my not updating? You could'veend it by not replying to sarcasm mail, but you did, so really... did Ihit a nerve on you then? And then, you replied again on another e-mailI sent explaining my situation... so... did I hit a nerve on you thentoo? Seriously, you wanna say, I'm the one that keeps writing back,well, same goes to you... I mean, look at this e-mail you just sent...it doesn't even justify anything I said in the e-mail before... it'slike playgroun kids saying, "Well I'm rubber and you're glue" *Boing**Fwip* baby, *Boing* *Fwip*
Well, okay, clearly, you don't want me to e-mail back, I'll respectthat by not replying to your reply after this... deal? Even if youspout the hate, I will not reply, even if every bone in my body wantsto reply, i will not reply... yay!
And finally, the last e-mail as she clearly replied cos I won't reply:
Only because you promise not to reply. ;)
Actually, you chooseto think I don't understand, because you didn't like what I had to say.You've got me pegged in your head as a total entitlement whore orsomething, and apparently you think I have nothing better to do, and nocommitments of my own, than to just sit here and whine and wait for youto update your comic. If you honestly believe that, I pity you. Ifthere were a big banner somewhere on the main NPP page that kinda readsas a disclaimer "Warning: this comic means nothing to me. Updates willbe infrequent, and sometimes rushed because I can't be bothered tocare." I could've saved you all this e-mail headache, I never would'veread it to begin with.
The only reason I wrote in the first place was because I liked the storyline, and the infrequent updates are unfair to your fans. Ifthe comic means nothing to you, why not just wrap it up and end it? Isuspect because you like the praise. You got one unsatisfied fan (thatyou know of, at least. Who knows how many just stopped waiting for youto update and found a better comic?), and it upset you. But hey, atleast it got you to update. I was just hoping the last NPP comic I wasever going to read would've been better than that. I should've knownbetter. That said, you can go about getting over it already, because Ilost any will to communicate with you a long time ago, it was just adisappointment.
And this marks the end of the drama I guess... I'm a man of my word, I will not reply...
Hey, I said I won't reply, I didn't say I wasn't going to put it online...
|Date:||January 23rd, 2007 10:24 am (UTC)|| |
This reminds me of the Abandoned Taiko Adventure; even though the show is FREE-OF-CHARGE, those who show up stir up noise because they feel 'entitled' to be the only one to access the show the way they'd like to. Not sorry at all they had to wait a four-hour long queue :P
IMO, someone who gets her knickers severely in a bunch over one missed webcomic update need to back away from the PC and take up an offline hobby. Or a job. Better yet, a life.
|Date:||January 23rd, 2007 12:08 pm (UTC)|| |
Amen to that!
People sometimes just take things for granted... it's too bad but it is how it is...
|Date:||January 23rd, 2007 10:38 am (UTC)|| |
Jeez what a rude person.I mean theres tons of webcomics out there and not evey one can update on time cause people have LIVES.
Besides if i read a webcomic that doesnt update all the time i always end up coming back a few weeks later and reading whatevers been updated i dont go emailing them to harras them T^T.
|Date:||January 23rd, 2007 10:56 am (UTC)|| |
Re: agh T^T
"Besides if i read a webcomic that doesnt update all the time i always end up coming back a few weeks later and reading whatevers been updated"
I do that too, even with a few of my favourite offline comics (eg. One Piece). I find that witholding for as long as I can and then binge-read the comic volumes at one go is just as satisfying, especially when individually they end with cliffhangers :D
seriously whats with people? why go out of ones way to be so rude. geez.. and well you update no pink ponies A LOT, and the quality of the art alone is worth the wait.
|Date:||January 23rd, 2007 12:14 pm (UTC)|| |
Internet makes people think that the art websites and the people who draws are responsible for their entertainment. It makes them think that we have to cater to their needs when they need it. It's like the e-mailer said, "If you can't handle the commitment, maybe you shouldn't make one in the first place.", I mean, forget the fact that we're doing it out of love and not because we wanna show it but because we wanna share it, no, we shouldn't put it up if we can't show free committment.
Sigh, people can be such whiners....
They forget (or don't care) that only a few cartoonists actually LIVE on their comics and 99% still have a job and some are still in high school or similar...
And even people who live with their comic are entitled to take time off.
At least he didn't join the forum just to say how much he hates the comic...
But yeah, what the hell is wrong with this guy he says he loves it and now he hates it?
|Date:||January 23rd, 2007 12:07 pm (UTC)|| |
Guy's a girl though... the e-mailer, I mean, is a she...
Never heard of that Wapsi thing. I don't like the art but I'm not going to email the guy and tell him he sucks for not drawing the way I want. That's just lame. Mr. Devout can go screw.
|Date:||January 23rd, 2007 12:12 pm (UTC)|| |
Oh, but I do agree with the e-mailer, Wapsi Square does have a fun and enjoyable storyline (hell, i think it's better than NPP too)... cool combination of the supernatural and slice of life...
I like how this guy thinks having a webcomic is some responsibility and you /have/ to keep it up. It's not a fucking puppy, it's a webcomic!
|Date:||January 23rd, 2007 12:11 pm (UTC)|| |
Some people think other people's lives revolves around them...
"I'm totally reading this for free but gosh durnit, the guy needs to update it cos I wanna read it dang it! I don't care if I'm not paying the guy, he should drop everything and update update update!"
|Date:||January 23rd, 2007 12:10 pm (UTC)|| |
I'll settle with number 1... hopefully, fulfilling that will change their lives enough to not need to die in five well fires
|Date:||January 23rd, 2007 12:07 pm (UTC)|| |
They give my life meaning!
|Date:||January 23rd, 2007 11:23 am (UTC)|| |
Wow, entitlement much? I can't believe some people can be so ungrateful.
You're a lot nicer in your replies than I would have been :x
|Date:||January 23rd, 2007 12:07 pm (UTC)|| |
I try not to be an asshole in my e-mails... well, not anymore anyways, god knows I've been enough of an asshole on my homepages, blogs and e-mails in the past... but leaving all those days behind me...
I think she likes you. Let her down easy. ;)
|Date:||January 23rd, 2007 12:09 pm (UTC)|| |
I'll try my best, ha ha ha!
obligatory comment regarding fan's stupidity, followed by agreement with your side of things.
|Date:||January 23rd, 2007 12:06 pm (UTC)|| |
Are you an illusion created by a Knight's father's ghost so that you can roam freely without being persecuted by the Paladins?!?
Ha ha ha ha, sorry, I think I've been reading too much Order of the Sticks.
I have no idea why you respond to these people. Or read what they have to say.
You should just post the email to your front page and say "that's it I quit" and see what happens. >:3
|Date:||January 23rd, 2007 12:05 pm (UTC)|| |
I respond to them cos sometimes, it's just something to respond to...
If I put the whole e-mail on the front page and do the whole "that's it I quit" thing, it's like I'm trying to ask for attention or something, like the guy who announced that he wants to commit suicide but not really wanting to do that cos all he wants is just someone to stop him from doing it. That's just something I don't do (anymore, past thing, buried and done, ha ha ha ha)...
Plus, I find doing that to be more low than responding to the person.
Oh wow o__o! Damn.. if she's (she?) so mad about a week without up date she should see some other webcomics that are around where the person only updates once a month because that's how much they can do with you know... LIFE making them do other things XD!!!
But wtf?? Does this happen often? o__O coz if it does... wow... that sortah sucks... I mean not that I'd care if I lost someone like THAT as a reader but come on.. that's just plain stupid...
|Date:||January 23rd, 2007 01:43 pm (UTC)|| |
Nah, it doesn't happen often... if it does, I wouldn't have posted this in the first place cos of the regularity of it's occurences ^o^
|Date:||January 23rd, 2007 12:29 pm (UTC)|| |
You could have done your reply in the form of a comic update, hehe.
Guess the internet always gets all sorts of people. Especially people who are both weird and rude.
|Date:||January 23rd, 2007 01:44 pm (UTC)|| |
Ah hah! I see your plan! But funny you mention the comic updating... cos it's gonna happen soon...